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Hello, this is tape number 101, visitors from Lanulus.

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It is an on-the-spot interview with Woodrow Daringburger, recorded very shortly after he

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claimed who have contacted Indrid Cold, a strange person who got out of a UFO on an interstate

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highway near Prakersburg, West Virginia, for a complete list of tapes about flying saucers

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and also books, right to Gray Barker, Box 2228, Clarksburg, West Virginia, 26301.

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And now, visitors from Lanulus.

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We're sent a very interesting and outstanding guest on our program this evening.

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I will introduce him in just a moment.

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I would like to introduce my fellow hardy in this adventure, Mr. Ronald Maines, who is

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the general manager of WTAP TV and radio.

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And we are here to ask this gentleman questions, and we will be asking questions for the next

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half hour to 25 minutes.

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Our guest is Mr. Daringburger, route number 2, Mineral Wells, West Virginia.

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Mr. Daringburger has a very interesting story to tell us this evening.

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I will give you a thumbnail sketch to begin with.

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Whether or not you believe in unidentified flying objects or not is not the point.

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But you believe in what you hear or see on this program is not the point.

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We are here to talk to a man that allegedly did make contact with such an object within

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the Prakersburg area last evening, November the 2nd, 1966, at approximately 7.00.

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7.45 p.m.

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The incident allegedly took place on Interstate Highway 77 near the interchange of route

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number 47.

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This gentleman is a salesman in the area.

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He has been a resident of the area for the past 50 years, and he has given us permission

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to interview him, to assure his face, and to call him by name.

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This in itself takes a lot of initiative and to be very plain, a lot of know-how.

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Mr. Daringburger, in your own words, would you please relate what happened last night?

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Well, I am a salesman and I drive a truck, and last night, shortly after 7.00, I was

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coming from Marietta, Ohio, coming down Interstate 77.

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And just before I came to the intersection of route 47, there was a car past me.

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He was taking me from behind, and following closely behind this car was this unidentified

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blind object.

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And as the car behind passed me, this object was following close behind it, and it swerved

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directly in front of my truck, turning crosswise.

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And when it turned crosswise, it slowed down.

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It started slowing, not abruptly or too fast, but it gave me plenty of time to step on my

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brakes and slow down with it.

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But it forced me to come to a complete stop.

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As soon as I had stopped, there was a door opened in the side of this vehicle, and this

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man stepped out and came directly to me, and I came to the truck.

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He walked to the right-hand side of the truck, and he told me to roll down the window.

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He asked me to roll down the window on my right-hand side of my truck, and I had done

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what he asked.

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And this man stood there, and he first asked me what I was called, and I knew him at my

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name, and I told him my name.

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And he asked me, he said, Why are you frightened?

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He said, Don t be frightened, we wish you no harm.

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He said, We mean you no harm, we wish you only happiness.

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And I told him my name, and when I told him the name, he said he was called Cold.

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That was the name that he was called by.

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And he asked me what the city of Parkersburg, he pointed to the lights, he didn t point,

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but he gave me the impression that he was pointing, and he asked me what that was called.

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And I told him it was Parkersburg, it was a city, a town, and he asked me if most all

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the people lived in this city or town.

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And I explained to him that it was a place of business, it s where we transacted our

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business, but the people lived in communities, outlying communities, most of the people.

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And when I told him that this was a city, he said a huge, or his home was, that that

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was called a gathering.

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And again he told me not to be frightened, which I was, I was very frightened.

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And as far as I can understand, this was all mental, there was no spoken words from him.

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I knew what he was asking me, but yet he stood there and his mouth did not move.

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He had a smile on his face, he was, he appeared very courteous, some friendly one.

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And after I talked to him awhile, he told me he would see me, he said we will see you

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again, and he left in his, in his, in his head.

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Now I was at Dernberger for the sake of our television audience here, the words that you

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use, cold, cold would be like a cold, it s his name.

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This is how it sounded to you that his name was cold.

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Yes.

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And the word gathering was like, we would know, together as far as something like that.

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Yes, that s what he meant, that was the impression that he did.

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And he did not move his lips nor utter any sound whatsoever, he talked with you in telepathy

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then.

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That is right, that his lips did not move, he uttered no words at all.

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But you talked, I mean you, he did.

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Yes, I talked, he told me, he told me twice that I could either talk or I could think.

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What either would be better or easier for me.

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This was an instant thing, this wasn t, there was no hesitation on his part, and on your

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part you knew immediately what he was communicating to you, and he knew immediately what you were

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communicating to him.

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That is right.

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What did the subject, what color was the subject?

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The subject was between a real dark gray and black, I would call it a charcoal color.

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It glistened in my headlights, my headlights when it stopped me, my headlights were shining

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directly on it.

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Were there lights in it?

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No, I see no lights at any time, there was no lights in them.

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There were windows?

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There was windows, I couldn t detect them, I couldn t see them.

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And when the door, now you could, you had a very clear view from behind the wheel of

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your van, the driver s seat of your van.

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Yes.

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He came forward toward you, did he tell you, did he communicate to you to roll your window

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down before he got to the side of your truck, was he still in your headlights when he communicated?

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He was still in my headlights walking, and I kind of got died in the way I crossed my

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headlights to the right hand side of my truck when he told me then to roll down, if I would

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please roll down the window on the right hand side of my truck.

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In the beginning, you were driving south on 77, from Marriott, toward Mineral Wells.

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Yes.

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A car passed you.

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It did.

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Immediately behind this car of what distance?

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I would say between 25 and 30 feet, it was very close to the other car.

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It came this object hovering far off the ground, would you say?

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Well, when I first seen it, I seen it out of the corner of my eye and I first thought

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it was just another car, and then I knew it wasn t a car almost immediately, and I turned

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and looked at it, and I would say it was approximately 30 to 35 feet long, and it came

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directly across past my truck and immediately turned sideways.

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It was completely across the Tulane Highway.

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It was completely blocked now.

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I went partly off and rode onto the berm to try to go around it, but I couldn t get around

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it.

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Now, let me ask you something.

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Then when it came in front of your car, may I have a, Mr. Dernberger was kind enough

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to draw a sketch of what this object appeared to him, and we ll let you see it here.

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I m correct then that the object came alongside of your car, veered in front of your car,

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and as you slowed, or your truck, and as you slowed your truck down, the object slowed

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down, and then when it landed, it didn t land.

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It stayed off the ground.

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Yes, it was approximately 8 to 10 inches off of the ground, and as soon as it came to

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stop immediately, there was a door on the side facing me open, and this man stepped

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out, and he started walking immediately right to the right hand side of my truck.

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Now, listen, that would be then the picture we have on our screen right now.

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That would be the angle your truck would be going right at that.

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Is that the idea?

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That s right.

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Now, where would the door be in that particular object there?

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It would be right for the large part of the drawing star.

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Where the hump is?

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Yes, right where the hump is.

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It would be in this direction here.

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Back toward it, right there, no, that s too far Mr. Wilson, back up front farther.

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Right there?

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Right there.

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Right there.

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It resembled just an ordinary automobile door when it opened.

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All right, now this, it didn t open from the bottom hinge or the top hinge, it opened from

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the side hinge.

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It opened from the side?

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We know.

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Yes, it opened from the side.

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How about, would you, how was this gentleman, how was this person dressed?

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What type of clothing did he wear?

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He had a top coat on and it was zippered down the front.

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His top, the top two buttons like my coat here were open and this outfit was a shiny

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material, it was a glossy outfit.

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I like it, it was metallic I suppose you would call it.

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And his shirt was a little bit darker than his jacket.

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And below his coat he had on trousers of the same kind of a cloth material and I believe

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the trousers were just a shade lighter than his coat.

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Which would have been a navy blue, the dark blue coat.

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What about the texture of his skin, the color of his skin, his eyes, eyebrows, eyelashes,

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hairline, what were these, what did he look like?

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He looked perfectly natural and normal in any human being.

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His face looked like he had a good tan, a deep sun tan.

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He was not too dark but it was just like he had been out in the sun a lot and had a good

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tan.

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His hair was turned straight back and it was a dark brown and he seemed to have a good

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thick head of hair.

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And his eyebrows, his face, his features were very normal and I don't believe that he looked

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any different from any other man that we'd meet on the street.

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Now this ship that he stepped out of when he came up, when he left the ship and started

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toward your truck, toward your van.

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Does ship remain there as he walked toward you?

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No, immediately as he stepped out of the truck, out of his vehicle, the door closed and the

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vehicle lifted straight up.

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It went straight, just as straight as you could point upward and it went up and I did see it.

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On an occasion as I was talking to this man, I looked up and it was still there.

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It was approximately 50 to 75 feet off the ground and it stayed there all the time this

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man was talking to me.

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Now when he talked to you, did he turn his head away as I'm turning my head away now

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or did he stare right at you or what was his movement?

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He watched me when he was talking to me.

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He looked at me directly in the face but there were several cars and several big trucks passed

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and as these big trucks passed he would turn his head and glance at the trucks.

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But there was no, did you look at the object in the air while he was talking with you?

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Did you glance up at me?

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Yes, I, in fact, I leaned forward and looked kind of out of my windshield and I could see it.

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It was still...

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So then this communication that he had with you would not necessarily depend upon him looking

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you in the eye or anything like that, they're not evident.

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No, no, he did not.

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In fact, when he first got out of the vehicle, when he told me to roll the window down, it

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was impossible for him to see my eyes because I was behind my own headlights and he could

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not have done it.

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How old would you say he was?

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He looked approximately 35, 40 years old.

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He was a very nice looking man.

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He was me.

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What specifically did he say to you?

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Did he say, hi, it's a nice evening?

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Or what, I mean, why did he stop you?

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What was his...

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When he asked me to roll the window down, which I did, I rolled the window down and he told

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me, he said, I would like to talk to you.

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I just couldn't answer him.

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I just couldn't speak.

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And at that, that is the first time he told me not to be frightened.

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He said, he wished me no harm.

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And he talked a little bit in this thing.

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He asked me why.

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He said, why are you frightened of us?

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He said, we are the same as you.

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He said, we eat, we breathe, we sleep, we bleed, even as you do.

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He said, we are like you.

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And he said, please, be not frightened.

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Did he say where he was from?

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He did not say where he was from, but when he asked me what part he spoke was, and I told

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him, he said, at Christ's day or where I live, my home, he said, we call it a gathering.

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Did he say anything about him?

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Did he volunteer?

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Did he have a family?

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Did he ask you what you did for a living?

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Where you were?

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He asked me if I worked for a living.

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He asked me if I had the work to live, and I explained to him what I was.

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He even asked me where I lived, and I told him, and I told him that I was a salesman.

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And he told me that he was a searcher.

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A searcher?

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A searcher.

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But he didn't tell you what he was searching for?

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No, he didn't.

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He didn't offer me no information other than this, but at two or three times he did tell me.

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He said, Mr. Dernberger, look at me.

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He said, do not be frightened.

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Look at me.

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And I believe that I hadn't been frightened.

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I believe that if I had have looked to him, I believe that I could have understood a lot more of what he wanted me to and what I actually did.

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You just have this feeling.

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I had that feeling.

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I was very nervous.

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I was very upset after this happened.

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And after I got home and after I had calmed down, I can look back now and I see where I should have asked him questions.

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And I believe I have the impression that he would have answered these questions readily.

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He believed in flying sensors.

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I had never had believed in flying sensors before.

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I have heard about them a few times.

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I've even read in the paper about flying objects.

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But I honestly never did believe in them.

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Do you believe in them now?

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I believe in what I've seen last night.

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I believe it was, I don't believe it was a false air, but I believe it was an alien.

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Some kind of an aircraft, a spacecraft or something.

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Mr. Dernberger, we have a program on radio called the Joe Pine Show.

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And Mr. Pine interviews extraordinary people in various, that are involved in various occupations and some non-occupational type of businesses.

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And have you ever heard of Joe Pine?

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No, I have. I don't believe I have.

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Alright, and one of his recent broadcasts, he talked with a man, he interviewed a man who had not only had somewhat similar experience to what you had last evening.

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But this gentleman went one step further and he had been taken aboard a spaceship, which by the way was described quite similarly to what you described this particular ship.

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And this ship, with these people who looked like we do and so forth, took him to Venus and took him to Mars and brought him back home again.

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What would you think of a story like that if somebody told it to you?

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What would you think of the person telling you that story? Would you believe that now? Would you believe that that could be possible?

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Now Mr. Mays, I believe now that that could happen. If someone would have told me yesterday before this happened, I would have frankly thought he was a mess.

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I honestly believe now that it could happen. I wouldn't. I'm sure they're not going to say it couldn't happen.

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These men last night or this man, he gave me no indication that he wanted me on his ship. He didn't ask me to get out of my truck.

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Well I say he was very friendly and courteous.

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Do you drink?

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No, I do not drink.

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I mean you don't drink intoxicating beverages.

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No, I do not drink any intoxicating beverages at all. I don't believe in drinking and I just don't.

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What I saw last night, I know that I saw it. It was no pigment of imagination. It was there and I was there.

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Now you said that he also made the statement that we will see you again.

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When he was getting ready to leave, he stepped back from the truck about one step and he said,

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Mr. Bernberger, we will see you again. He didn't say I, he said we will see you again.

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And when he got in the truck or when he got in the vehicle, the door opened as he walked up to the vehicle and he stepped up into it.

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And there was another man or I couldn't describe this man because I could just see his outline but I did see his arm and hand reach outside

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and take a hold of the door and pull the door closed.

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And when the door closed, it made an audible noise like he had shut the door onto a big heavy automobile.

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What kind of a noise did this object make when it was hovering above the ground six or ten inches and then upon letting the man off,

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you say it went back up in the air 75 or 100 feet. This is an object now that we're talking about.

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It's eight or nine feet high, 36 feet long and about eight or nine feet across in breath.

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It would, although it's really not too large an object, it is larger than what an automobile, for example.

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And to lift something like that would take a lot of force to do this. What kind of a sound did this make?

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The sound when it was hovering over the ground and when it was lifting, I couldn't distinguish no difference in the sound.

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It was a low, fluttering noise.

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Well, if you've never heard the blades of a helicopter as it was idling, setting on the ground, that would be the closest way that I could describe the noise it made.

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But it was not very loud.

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Can you make a noise that it sounded like?

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Well, it would say it was a fluttering noise. It sounded something like...

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But it's a sound you've never heard before.

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I had never heard anything like it before in my life.

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Let's get back to this fellow here. He was how tall?

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I would say he was close to six feet tall and he had way around 180 or 180.

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I'm six feet tall. He's heavier than I am.

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He was about your height.

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But heavier than my facial.

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Yes, he was heavier. His face was more full.

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How much do you figure that I would weigh?

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I'd say about 165 to 178.

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You're right on the button. That's right.

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There were no lights. Now this was dark this time of night. It was dark.

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It was completely dark, but I never at any time turned my headlights off.

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And I also had the lights in the truck on.

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I have a cab light and then I have lights back through my truck.

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Now these lights run and do good illumination up close to the truck, but not too far back.

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But while he was standing and talking to me, I could see him clearly.

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And at several times, there was cars passed and trucks passed.

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And especially cars that came up from behind me as they came around the spindle,

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they were throwing the headlights directly on the back end of my truck and was throwing a good light on him.

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But no one slowed down or...

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No one slowed down.

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But they would have easily been able to see him.

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Do you suppose maybe somebody in our audience might have passed you last evening standing there talking with this fellow?

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I know that there were several cars passed me and one car, as this thing settled down in front of me,

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was coming to meet me. And when this thing was directly in front of me, this car came to meet me.

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And his headlights were, it was in a kind of a curve.

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This guy came to meet me, would be making a left-hand curve, and his lights would be shining off to the right.

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But I still think that he could have seen and probably did see whatever this object was.

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Glenn, I've been monopolizing here. You...

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Can you begin with the question?

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I know personally that Mr. Dernberger was scared because I talked to him a short time after this happened.

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I talked to him on my telephone last night. What did your wife think when you told her about this episode?

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Well, my wife was...she took it pretty calmly, but it kind of made her nervous.

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She worried today before I started back to work. She thought the same thing could happen again.

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And she believes that what I told her, and she's pretty upset herself about it.

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So, this communication, which is apparently extrasensory perception or mental telepathy,

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when was you first aware that this was the way that she were communicating?

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Well, when he first told me to come out, when he first got out of his vehicle and started over to my car,

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that is when he first told me or asked me if I'd roll down my window.

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At that time, right at that moment, I didn't know that it was mental telepathy.

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When he came to the door and looked in through the window from the right-hand side of the truck,

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then I realized that he was speaking, but his lips were not moving.

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Is this the thing that's frightened you, the chick?

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This is what made me...that frightened me more than anything I believe that had happened.

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It happened to a time even more so than when I actually seen the object.

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And I know that he told me not to be frightened.

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He was very reassuring in his attitude.

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He was friendly. He smiled continuously while I talked to him.

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He kept his arms folded something like this all the time?

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His arms were folded completely at all times like this. His hands were hidden.

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And at the time I talked to him, I didn't think nothing about it.

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But after I started home, I did wonder why he stood that way.

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And as I believe one of you gentlemen asked me before about his hands,

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when this man closed the door, when he got back in the vehicle,

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I distinctly see this other man's hand and arm, and his arm looked completely normal.

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Now you describe the attire of this person more as a suit,

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such as I'm wearing than a uniform.

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Yes.

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That we know as a uniform.

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I would say that it wasn't a uniform. It didn't have the cut of a uniform.

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It was more like you'd wear a suit to tell.

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Was it the cloth like this?

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Well, it was a bright, shiny, color cloth.

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It looked like what my wife calls a hard fabric.

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It glistened when the lights would shine on it.

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A luminous type.

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Yes.

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The arm that came out, another arm from inside came out to close the door when this gentleman got back.

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Was that arm clothed in the same type of...

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I would say it was identically the same.

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It looked the same to me as hard fabric.

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Now he had on, from what you could see, he had on a shirt that buttoned with a collar but no tie.

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He had no tie but I know that the top button of his shirt, if I know he had a button there, I've seen that.

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I looked at that button.

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His front.

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Now his top coat was zippered.

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It had a zipper on the front of his coat.

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And he looked perfectly normal.

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Why do you suppose that he came around to the right-hand side of your truck rather than the nearest side to you?

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Why do you figure that he came around that side?

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Well, the only reason that I could give up with that was that I had two wheels up on the berm and two wheels sitting on the highway where I'd been trying to get around this before it got me completely stopped.

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Now I believe that this man actually knew the traffic conditions.

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I believe he knew that he would be safer on the other side.

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Now if he didn't use words and communicating with you, if he used thoughts, why did he have you roll your window down so that he could hear you?

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So I...

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You feel that this was why he didn't?

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I believe that he had me to roll my window down so he could look at me without looking through the glass because the glass was very rain-sweet where it had been raining.

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And that is the impression that I got, but he wanted to win the dance so I'd be in closer communication with him so we could see each other.

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The time when he left you, when your conversation was ended, how did you know that it was all over?

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Did he say anything to the effect that, well, I've got to be going now, I have to go, I know...

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How did he terminate this conversation?

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He terminated his conversation very quickly.

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One second we were talking there and the next thing this vehicle settled down right beside him, he stepped back from the truck.

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And when he stepped back, this thing came right back down.

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Now it wasn't crosswise the road. When it came down, it was heading in the same direction I was. It was right at the length of the truck.

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And when they settled down, he turned and whiffed up around in front of my headlights and back.

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But just before he started, he said, Mr. Dunberger, we will be seeing you again.

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You believe he will?

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I did believe it, but now I don't know how to answer that honestly because I'm afraid he will and I don't want him to.

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But I have a feeling that he will.

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Thank you.